- Discuss one of the puns in the scene.
- How are Tybalt and Benvolio foils for one another?
- Characterization of Romeo
- Discuss a theme present in the scene.
- Discuss the significance of Benvolio's name.
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Answering Mrs. Wells question:
How are Tybalt and Benvolio foils for one another?
Tybalt and Benvolio contradict displaying their foils for one another. Benvolio displays himself as being a peacemaker, “Break it up you fools. Put your swords away.” (11) While Tybalt seems to show hatred towards peace. Tybalt disagrees with Benvolio, “What, drawn, and talk of peace? I hate that word, As I hate hell…” (12) The two are contrary in their opinions.
There is a foil between Benvolio and Tybalt. A foil is when there are two people in pairs, but have the opposite character traits. Benvolio likes to have peace. "I do but keep the peace. Put up thy sword, or manage it to part these men with me." reveals Benvolio wanting to have peace. Tybalt on the other hand doesn't want peace. "What, drawn, and talk of peace? I hate the word, As i hate hell, all Montagues, and thee. Have at thee, coward." reveals Tybalt not liking peace.
What is the reason of Romeo being so sad everytime? Why does he make his days as nights, and his nights as days?
Tybalt and Benvolio are foils for one another because Tybalt is anxious to fight while Benvolio looks for more peacefull ways to solve an argument. When Benvolio tells Tybalt to "keep the peace" (8) and "put up thy sword" (8, all Tybalt replys is "What, drawn, and talk of peace? I hate the word as I hate hell"(9). The peacefull Benvolio is the exact opposite of the vicious Tybalt.
When describing Romeo in Scene 1 i would describe him as a depressed character because during the talk between Benvolio and Montague, Benvolio tells us that "i followed him into the woods but lost him and Judging his feelings he just wanted to be alone"(115-125) This shows that he doesn't want to talk to anybody and probably just wants to be alone. Later On we find out that Romeo is in love in his talk with Benvolio, but she has no feelings for him in return. Benvolio tells him to get over her there are tons of other beautiful ladys, but Romeo is a big baby and contends that the woman he loves is the most beautiful of all. He is totally emo!
why does romeo say..."Tut, I have lost myself; I am not here;
This is not Romeo, he's some other where." ??
Characterization of Romeo:
Romeo can be perceived as a poetic and emotional character. His poignant character is portrayed through his words that love is “being vexed, a sea nourished with loving tears” (22). It shows that his inability to attain his love has caused a sorrow beyond imagination; this sorrow demonstrates how emotional Romeo can be. Romeo is depicted as poetic by his description of love; “Love is a smoke raised with the fume of sighs; Being purged, a fire sparkling in lovers' eyes; Being vexed, a sea norished with loving tears. What is it else? A madness most discreet, A choking gall, and a preserving sweet" (22).
Through this vivid description of love in a flowing manner, we can understand that he is a poetic character.
What is the reason of Romeo being so sad everytime? Why does he make his days as nights, and his nights as days?
Answer to Fazal
As an immature and impulsive young gentleman, Romeo seems to act without thinking and he usually regrets it in the future. As an example, Romeo had been attracted to a young woman named Rosaline, who soon rejected his affection for her. Feeling downcast, Romeo later tells Benvolio that love is "bright smoke, cold fire, sick health" (21 Act 1, Scene 1) to show his ironic feelings of love. By depicting love as something that is double-sided, Romeo is obviously in a state of confusion and chaos as to what the true meaning of love really is.
tybalt and benvolio are foils because tybalt can be charaterized as furious and is ready to fight as benvolio tried to keep the peace but then was attacked by tybalt. tybalt even says him self "what , drawn, and talk of peace? i hate the word as i hate hell, all montagues, and thee." tybalt is trying to get benvolio angry just so he could get him to fight him.
Answering Fazal's question:
What is the reason of Romeo being so sad everytime? Why does he make his days as nights, and his nights as days?
The reason why Romeo acts depressed is because the girl he loves doesn't love him back. Romeo is convinced that "she'll not be hit with Cupid's arrow... She will not stay the siege of loving terms" (24). Shakespeare displays an allusion that Rosaline does not get him by the arrow shot by Cupid, the god of love. Romeo is devastated that she doesn’t love him. Therefore, he is in a state of depression and was living in darkness from heartbreak.
why do you think the capulets and the montagues have been fighting so long?, and do u think it will ever stop?
The significance of Benvolios name is that it means peacemaker or good-will. its also close to the word benevolent which means kind.
He wants to avoid fights & keep peace between the families "i do but keep the peace; put up thy sword, Or manage it to part these men with me"(act 1 scene 1).
He will only fight when he has to.
Fazal Dalal....
Romeo is always sad because he loves someone he can't marry. Romeo says, "Griefs of mine own lie heavy in my breast, Which thou wilt propagate, to have it pressed With more of thine"(22). Romeo lives at night because he doesn't want to be bothered by anyone while he is heartbroken. He doesn't want to talk about it because it only makes him feel worse inside.
Fazal Dalal said...
What is the reason of Romeo being so sad everytime? Why does he make his days as nights, and his nights as days?
Romeo is always sad because “out of her favor, where [he is] in love” Rosaline, the girl he cares for, refuses to love anyone, as what you would be called in this day. a Nun. Romeo feels that no other “beauty serve but as a note” and no girl would ever measure up to her. Since he knows he doesn’t have a chance with her he continually acts and feels depressed. His “nights as days” are because with out his love, his days are without light or love, and are dark and alone. His depressing feelings reflect off his speech, which is why he seems without hope to return to himself. He knows this is not how he normally acts too, and believes that he “is not Romeo. He’s some other where.” By expressing his emotions Romeo displays himself being so sad all the time, all because the girl Rosaline that he is so deeply in love with, will never love him.
Benvolio and Tybalt are very so foils. During the fight between Sampson and Abram, is were Shakespeare expresses the foil between Benvolio and Tybalt, Benvolio’s response to the fight was, “I do but keep the peace. Put up thy sword, Or manage it to part these men with me”(Act 1, Scene 1, lines 61-61). He is saying that he does not want them to fight, he wants to see peace around. He told Sampson to help him separate the two men or put away the sword. Benvolio does not like to see fighting he is more a man of peace. Benvolio is one of those men that would say the saying, make peace not war. Benvolio is an arbitrator, which helps express the personality of Tybalt better, which is what foils do because the characters are complete opposites. In response to Benvolio’s comment Tybalt says, “What, dawn, and talk of peace? I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee. Have at thee, coward!”(Act 1, Scene 1, lines 63-65). Tybalt’s response is saying that Bonvolio took out his sword as if to fight and is now talking about peace and putting down his sword. Tybalt says he hates the talk of peace and Montagues which is what Benvolio is. This could also help with the foil, they are not only complete opposites in character, but also family enemies. Tybalt says that he hates peace and wants to fight. He is more of the character to fight at the drop of a feather. Anything bad happens, he is like lets go come one fight. In his response to the fight Tybalt says, “Have at thee, coward!” which is saying that just, because Benvolio says he does not want to fight and now would like peace he is a coward, which could be another way that Tybalt is trying to make Benvolio mad so he will fight. Tybalt is an instigator, which is the opposite of and arbitrator so he and Benvolio are foils, which helps brings out there opposite personalities.
While Romeo and Benvolio are speaking about Romeo and his love for Rosaline, what is the significance about the allusion Romeo says to Cupid and Dian? How does this add to your knowledge of the love between Romeo and Rosaline?
Question:
Why do you think that rosaline being beautiful has promised to a virgin forever? she could marry a rich man of her choosing and become rich and beautiful, since although she's beautiful she is also poor.
Answering Fazal Dalal's question:
Romeo is so sad in the beginning, because he love’s Rosaline so much , however she will not love him back. As Romeo and Benvolio speak, Romeo says, “Ay me! Sad hours seem long….Out of her favor, where I am in love”(Act1, Scene 1, Lines 154/161). When Romeo says, “Sad hours seem long,” he is saying that his sad hours seem to go by very slow. And then he tells Benvolio his reason of being sad is because he is in love with a girl who doesn’t love him back. Romeo makes his days as nights, and his nights as days, I think so he would not have to see people as much. When someone is depressed they stay in the dark and like to be left alone. So I think the reason for Romeo turning his days into night and nights into day is so he can be alone and not have to talk to people.
Answering Fazal's question:
Romeo is so sad all the time because he is depressed over Rosaline who rejected him. He believes that their is no one as beautiful as Rosaline and he wont find anyone other girl like her.
Why do you think Shakespeare has the families introduced this way? Think of the people who are involved.
Connor B
Anwsering Fazal's question.
The reason that Romeo is being so sad is that he is in love with a woman and she does not love him back. When Romeo says these things it shows how he is sad about the woman not loving him,"In sadness cousin, I do love a woman...She'll not be hit withCupids arrow...She will not stay the siege of loving terms...Nor ope her lap to saint-seducing gold"(24) Romeo does not really make his nights as days but he does walk around alot because he wants to get away from other people because he feels so bad about his love situation. He does make his days as nights because he wants to shut everything out so he can be alone and mope about the love of his life.
In response of Fazal Dalal's question. "What is the reason of Romeo being so sad everytime? Why does he make his days as nights, and his nights as days?"
Romeo lives his days in 'artificial night' because he says "In sadness, cousin, I do love a woman." (25,Act I, Scene1).
Romeo is 'emo' because he loves a woman that has sworn a vow of chastity and will never have a husband. Romeo feels that the girl that will never be his is the only chance for his love derived heart to resusitate it from its state of starvation. He uses the cover of darkness to ponder how his life is a waste and why he should not go on. The darkness is ment to save his mind from loneliness.
Answering Evelyn m 's ?
During this time period religion was the center of many people's lives, and I guess Rosaline was a religious person. They thought that being a virgin would automaticaly give you a "free pass" into heaven, and is the reason Rosaline has promised to keep her virginity, because she want to follow her beliefs.
In this scene, Romeo would be characterized as melancholy. He is having a conversation with his cousin, Benvolio. Benvolio is attempting to cheer Romeo up because Romeo had just been dumped by a girl he was in love with. He tried to help Romeo by telling him to forget about the girl and move on but Romeo continued to feel depression and self-pity. In the scene, "Why, such is love's transgression. Griefs of mine own lie heavy in my breast, which thou wilt propagate, to have it pressed with more of thine. This love that thou hast shown doth add more grief to too much of mine own. Love is a smoke raised with the fume of sighs;being purged, a fire sparkling in lover's eyes; being vexed, a sea nourished with loving tears. What is it else? A madness most discreet, a choking gall, and a preserving sweet." (Shakespeare 22) Romeo is explaining his perspective on love and what it has done to him. He explains it with a very melancholy and depressed tone that helps show his characterization of being melancholy, such as..."A madness most discreet, a choking gall..." Romeo explains love as a madness being discreet and as a choking gall which shows the sad and melancholy tone.
Question:
Why would the two families, the Montagues and Capulets, have started fighting so violently in the first place? What triggered the constant tension and disputes between them?
Romeo can be characterized as depressed by his love towards Rosaline. His confusion is shown through the text of his oxymoron's "Love is heavy and light, bright and dark, hot and cold..." This shows just how Romeo feels towards love with bewilderment, loving and hating it all at the same time. Futhermore, he lockes himself up in his bedroom, shuts all the windows and stays in there all day.
Tybals and Benvolio's personalities difference demostrates their are a foil to one another. Benvolio seens as the peacemaker of the story, trying to stop prevent any violence that may occcur, just like he does when Abram, Sampson and Gregory were about to fight, "Put up thy sword, Or manage it to part these men with me" (12, Act 1, Scene 1) He told the servants to put their swords away to prevent any more problems between the Montagues and the Capulete. Meanwhile Tybalt, who seens to be very impulsive,is more of a figther just like he demostrates when he refuses to put down his sword when Benvolio told him to, "What, drawn, and talk of peace? I hate that word, As I hate hell..."(12, Act 1, Scene 1) This constract may foreshadow just like in Tale of Two Cities the foil between Madam Defarge and Miss Pross, a majpr event will happen later in the play.
Answering Jimmy M's Question:
I think Shakespeare indroduced the families in the way he did to show the intense hatered of eachother. As soon as Montague enters the scene he says "thou villian Capulet!" (9) Just at the meer sight of the other family, they shout out and tell people "hold me not, let me go" (9), for they are intent on fighting each other. Even when the servents walk by each other they are inclined to "bite [there] thumbs at them" (7).
What could have started the whole conflict between the Capulets and Montegues?
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Question:
Characterize Romeo.
Answer:
Romeo seems almost pathetic by the way that he speaks about Rosaline. Although she does not love him back, he seems to try to force him self to believe that she must some how fall for him. For example, in the quote “She [Rosaline] has, and what a waste there is in saving herself like that! Her virginity denies all future generations of her beauty.. It isn’t fair that her beauty, her wisdom and her virtue should win her a place in Heaven at the expense of my suffering! She has vowed never to love: and that means I must endure a living death (page 39, act one, scene one). ” When he says this its like he praises her like she were made of gold. He refuses to even try to move on by stating that he “… must endure a living death (page 39, act one, scene one). ” Instead of trying to go on with life, he sort of leaves himself stuck in one place like he has no other way out.
answering ms.wells question:
There is a foil between Tybalt and Benvolio meaning they have oppisite attractions, personalitlies, and traits. Tybalt is more wild and out there, hes very violent and brave, and doesn't believe in peace. He shows he's not scared against Benvolio when he says, "What drawn, an talk of peace? ... Have at thee, caward." hes aaking Benvolio if he was to coward to draw swords with him. hes showing that he is'nt scared and doesnt want peace. When Benvolio is more of a peace maker and he "do but keep the peace." in this situation and he's trying to convense Tybalt into peace instead of drawling swords. Their personalities are total opposites, therfore there's a foil between the two.
One of the first puns in Romeo and Juliet is in Act 1 Scene 1 when Sampson and Gregory are talking and Sampson mentions raping women by "cutting off their heads"(6) and he talks about using a tool wich by that he means his private parts, but then Gregory mentions that he should get his tool out to fight and by that he means his sword and so it's a pun with a literal word and a word used in a symbolic way.
answering fazal's question:
The reason that Romeo is sad all the time is because he is very depressed that the one he belived "no one is as beautiful" as, had rejected him and he thinks that there is no better girl in the world that he'll find. Romeo shows this when he says, "Ay me! Sad hours seem long….Out of her [Rosaline]favor, where I [Romeo]am in love" (act 1, scene 1) meaning, the hours in these days have seen much longer, because hes so depressed. And hes going crazy in love for this girl.
why do you think that Rosaline rejects Romeo? and why does he take it so hard on himself, letting himself think that there's "no one else as beautiful" as he is?
Student Question
The servants are generally thought of as minor characters. Why does the play open to two servants and what importance does their conversation pose?
How does Benvolio show his respect and friendship towards Romeo? What advice does he give him?
What makes Tybalt and Benvolio foils for eachother is their completely different personalities. Tybalt is aggressive and at times impulsive. Tybalt demonstrates his aggression when he says to Benvolio, "Turn thee, Benvolio. Look upon thy death." Here he has drawn his sword and is threatining to kill Benvolio. Whereas Benvolio is a peaceful person. He replies to Tybalt's threat by saying "I do but keep the peace. Put up thy sword..." Demonstrating his pacifistic personality by attempting to calm the fiery Tybalt. This difference in personality makes them foils.
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